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Author Topic: Viekira Pak + Ribavirin and Alcohol?  (Read 12662 times)

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Offline smadak

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Viekira Pak + Ribavirin and Alcohol?
« on: June 01, 2015, 05:24:00 pm »
Hey guys,

This is my first thread here. I imagine some people may jump all over this because alcohol and liver disease shouldn't be a mix in the first place, but just hear me out?

So I started my treatment (as listed in my signature) about 10 days ago. About a week into the treatment, I was visiting with some friends and had maybe 3-4 drinks of alcohol over a 2-3 hour period. I haven't had HCV for very long (almost 3 years) and have no liver damage or enlargement, so I thought a bit of social drinking in moderation would be okay.

However the next morning, I woke up and couldn't stop vomiting all day, couldn't hold down water or gatoratde, etc. Very very sick. It finally subsided around the later evening. It was unlike any hangover I've ever had, I felt like I was poisoned.

Could this be because I mixed the alcohol with the meds? I'm also on 12mg of suboxone a day, but I've been on that for months now. I haven't drank alcohol since starting the suboxone either, so I'm really not sure which med caused the interaction. Of course I looked on some suboxone-related forums and no one seemed to report this type of sickness when drinking, which made me think it may have been the viek+riba. Any thoughts? Regardless, not planning on drinking any more...
« Last Edit: June 01, 2015, 05:36:18 pm by smadak »
22 y/o female
Contracted HCV 2012
Diagnosed Feb 2014, Genotype 1a
Started 12 weeks Viekira pak + Ribavirin on 5/22/15

Offline Lynn K

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Re: Viekira Pak + Ribavirin and Alcohol?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2015, 06:42:15 pm »
Simple answer don't drink on treatment.

You have lots of chemicals swimming around in your blood stream why add another chemical to the mix
Genotype 1a
1978 contracted, 1990 Dx
1995 Intron A failed
2001 Interferon Riba null response
2003 Pegintron Riba trial med null response
2008 F4 Cirrhosis Bx
2014 12 week Sov/Oly relapse
10/14 fibroscan 27 PLT 96
2014 24 weeks Harvoni 15 weeks Riba
5/4/15 EOT not detected, ALT 21, AST 20
4 week post not detected, ALT 26, AST 28
12 week post NOT DETECTED (07/27/15)
ALT 29, AST 27 PLT 92
24 week post NOT DETECTED! (10/19/15)
44 weeks (3/11/16)  fibroscan 33, PLT 111, HCV NOT DETECTED!
I AM FREE!

Offline smadak

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Re: Viekira Pak + Ribavirin and Alcohol?
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2015, 06:45:38 pm »
Right Lynn, I agree it was a big mistake and it's not one I'll be repeating. However I'm still just curious as to what interaction caused it, and if nothing else, maybe someone will see this thread before making the same mistake. I know I couldn't find anything via google or the search feature here regarding this.
22 y/o female
Contracted HCV 2012
Diagnosed Feb 2014, Genotype 1a
Started 12 weeks Viekira pak + Ribavirin on 5/22/15

Offline Lynn K

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Re: Viekira Pak + Ribavirin and Alcohol?
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2015, 08:28:10 pm »
I am just thinking too many chemicals swimming in the blood stream is a bad idea most likely an interaction of some sort.

I have cirrhosis from hep c so I can't drink ever again.
Genotype 1a
1978 contracted, 1990 Dx
1995 Intron A failed
2001 Interferon Riba null response
2003 Pegintron Riba trial med null response
2008 F4 Cirrhosis Bx
2014 12 week Sov/Oly relapse
10/14 fibroscan 27 PLT 96
2014 24 weeks Harvoni 15 weeks Riba
5/4/15 EOT not detected, ALT 21, AST 20
4 week post not detected, ALT 26, AST 28
12 week post NOT DETECTED (07/27/15)
ALT 29, AST 27 PLT 92
24 week post NOT DETECTED! (10/19/15)
44 weeks (3/11/16)  fibroscan 33, PLT 111, HCV NOT DETECTED!
I AM FREE!

Offline shootingforzero

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Re: Viekira Pak + Ribavirin and Alcohol?
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2015, 08:57:49 pm »
If you had that strong of a reaction to anything while on Viekira + Ribavarin, I think you should tell your doctor and let them evaluate. What if it wasn't due to the alcohol, but an allergy to the drug itself? Please discuss with your healthcare provider, not with us random armchair physicians on the Internet.

That said, ritonavir, one of the components of Viekira Pak does slow the liver's metabolism of many substances and thus cause elevated levels of them in your body.  Ritonavir is there to boost the other drugs in the mix. (This why the list of possible interactions is so insanely long for Viekira Pak).
So, it's not at all impossible that some combo of Viekira, alcohol and suboxone caused that reaction.

Please be careful out there
« Last Edit: June 01, 2015, 09:04:52 pm by shootingforzero »
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35 years old, female
GT 1b, F1-2

5/28 2015: Started treatment with Viekira, 12-weeks, without ribavarin

Pre treatment: AST 35 ALT  33 VL: 2 million IU/ml
Week 4:      AST 19  ALT  11 VL: <1.18 IU/ml detected
Week 8:      AST 18  ALT  13 VL: <1.18 IU/mil undetected
Week 12:    AST  18  ALT  11 VL <1.18 IU/mil undetected
Post treatment:
EOT 4:        AST  16 ALT 12  VL <1.18 IU/mil undetected
EOT 12:      AST 18  ALT 11  VL <1.18 IU/mil undetected

Offline Lynn K

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Re: Viekira Pak + Ribavirin and Alcohol?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2015, 09:19:15 pm »
Good point your doctor should be your first choice for medical information and drug reactions although I can imagine you might feel hesitant to reveal to your doctor you were drinking on treatment.

Still this is something doctors would need to know about so they can strongly advise patients about not using alcohol on treatment due to strong reactions like you experienced.

Good luck on treatment
Genotype 1a
1978 contracted, 1990 Dx
1995 Intron A failed
2001 Interferon Riba null response
2003 Pegintron Riba trial med null response
2008 F4 Cirrhosis Bx
2014 12 week Sov/Oly relapse
10/14 fibroscan 27 PLT 96
2014 24 weeks Harvoni 15 weeks Riba
5/4/15 EOT not detected, ALT 21, AST 20
4 week post not detected, ALT 26, AST 28
12 week post NOT DETECTED (07/27/15)
ALT 29, AST 27 PLT 92
24 week post NOT DETECTED! (10/19/15)
44 weeks (3/11/16)  fibroscan 33, PLT 111, HCV NOT DETECTED!
I AM FREE!

Offline sapphire101

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Re: Viekira Pak + Ribavirin and Alcohol?
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2015, 04:15:52 pm »
smadak there is another widely read post on harvoni and alcohol and while I realize your are on a different treatment you might want to repost this question there. It was started by disabledhepcat and has over 10 thousand views and many forum members are active in it.
You might see some answers to your interaction question there.

That being said, most forum members and moderators agree to avoid new medications and all extras including alcohol on treatment just to be safe.

Sapphire101
Genotype 1a Fibrosis level 1
Viekira Pak with ribavirin 12 weeks
Pre treatment  VL  1.7 million, AST 45 ALT 65
EOT VL not detected, AST 21 ALT 21
12 week SVR not detected,24 week SVR not detected.
Cured! Class of 2015

Offline 1yss223

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Re: Viekira Pak + Ribavirin and Alcohol?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2015, 12:29:05 pm »
Have you gotten any blood work or talked to your doctor since this incident? I'm curious to know if alcohol impacted your viral load or treatment in anyway since I am in a similar situation now... Without the vomitting or feeling like I have been poisoned. I am worried however that there's a chance that the medication won't work now...

 


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