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Author Topic: My Riba-Anemia Will Not Go Away  (Read 9417 times)

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Offline KimInTheForest

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My Riba-Anemia Will Not Go Away
« on: October 02, 2015, 11:44:40 am »
Maybe I am just too impatient. But I am now 9.5 weeks post-treatment, and my hemoglobin has barely budged from its EOT level of 99 g/L. (Reference range: 120-150 g/L).

As of yesterday (2 full months with no ribavirin entering my body), my hemoglobin was just 100 g/L - essentially no change from EOT! This is really getting old.

My Red Blood Cells in that same 2-month period of time have increased from 3.1 tera/L at EOT to 3.66 tera/L yesterday. (Reference range: 3.9-5.5 tera/L)

I have been taking 25 mg of iron chelate daily for the last month because we discovered I was iron deficient. And my serum ferritin level has responded somewhat to that, increasing from 29 ug/L to 41 ug/L in the last 30 days. (Reference range: 15-180) But that still leaves me in the "Probable iron deficiency" category according to my lab.

Results:

EOT 
   Hemoglobin: 99 g/L
   Red Blood Cells: 3.1 tera/L
   Ferritin: unknown

5 Weeks Post-Tx
   Hemoglobin: 103 g/L
   Red Blood Cells: 3.5 tera/L
   Ferritin: 29 ug/L

9 Weeks Post-Tx
   Hemoglobin: 100 g/L
   Red Blood Cells: 3.66 tera/L
   Ferritin: 41 ug/L

I am very thankful of course to be rid of the Hep C virus after 45 years of living with it! And that's what I am trying to stay focused on right now - My New Life. But it is very frustrating to not be able to shake this anemia after 9 weeks with no ribavirin.

Wellness to all,
kim
« Last Edit: October 02, 2015, 12:58:49 pm by KimInTheForest »
Kim Goldberg (Nanaimo, BC)
1970s: Contracted HCV (genotype 3a)
2015: Cured with Harvoni + ribavirin (12 weeks)
MY STORY: https://pigsquash.wordpress.com/2016/01/28/undetectable-my-hep-c-story/

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Re: My Riba-Anemia Will Not Go Away
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2015, 12:36:42 pm »
Hi Kim! Sorry this is still going on for you! My first thought is maybe get in touch with whoever makes the riba and ask them if they know of any other cases like yours. It seems to me that you and your Doc have done all of the proper testing and treatments. It certainly couldn't hurt and maybe they would help you find a direction towards resolving this!       Teri
64 yrs. on this fine planet!
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Offline KimInTheForest

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Re: My Riba-Anemia Will Not Go Away
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2015, 01:02:29 pm »
Hi Kim! Sorry this is still going on for you! My first thought is maybe get in touch with whoever makes the riba and ask them if they know of any other cases like yours. It seems to me that you and your Doc have done all of the proper testing and treatments. It certainly couldn't hurt and maybe they would help you find a direction towards resolving this!       Teri

Thanks, Teri. I may try that. You would think with Ribavirin having been in use for nearly 20 years for Hep C patients, that there would be more info online about the post-tx rebound from the anemia. But most of what I have seen just says it can take up to a month post-treatment for hemoglobin to return to normal. And I am way past that…

kim
« Last Edit: October 02, 2015, 04:24:42 pm by KimInTheForest »
Kim Goldberg (Nanaimo, BC)
1970s: Contracted HCV (genotype 3a)
2015: Cured with Harvoni + ribavirin (12 weeks)
MY STORY: https://pigsquash.wordpress.com/2016/01/28/undetectable-my-hep-c-story/

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Re: My Riba-Anemia Will Not Go Away
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2015, 09:00:56 pm »
I can only give my own info - I went from 102 to 111 within ten days. So to not move sounds strange. Might need more investigation.
CURED SVR24  Class of 2015
Wk 12 post EOT 30.11.15: ALT 14 AST 22 GGT 22 VL UND
Week 19 07.08.15: ALT 17 AST 23 GGT 25
Week 12 18.06.15: ALT 21 AST 23 GGT 28
Week 8 25.05.15: ALT 23 AST 27 GGT 30 VL UND
Week 4 20.04.14: ALT 30 AST 36 VL 40
Treatment start 23.03.15: ALT 137 AST 185 VL 342,600
Cirrhosis Child-Pugh A, Genotype 1a - Viekira Pak + riba 24 weeks
Total failure interferon/ribavirin/boceprovir Mar 2013
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Re: My Riba-Anemia Will Not Go Away
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2015, 11:04:16 pm »
Found some information

DELAYED RECOVERY OF PEGYLATED INTERFERON AND RIBAVIRIN INDUCED ANEMIA

http://www.natap.org/2003/AASLD/day8_3.htm

When Hb recovery was defined as a return of Hb to within 1.0 gm of baseline, 38 (49%) patients in the overall group recovered by follow-up week 4, 28 (36%) patients by follow-up week 12, 7 (9%) patients by follow-up week 24 and 4 (5%) patients did not recover by follow-up week 24.

The authors concluded:
 
1) Recovery of hemoglobin to baseline levels may take longer in patients who have been treated with pegylated interferon and ribavirin than what has been reported for patients treated with standard interferon and ribavirin.
 
2) In patients treated with pegylated interferon and ribavirin, return to baseline Hb levels does not occur in all patients by follow-up weeks 12 or 24.
 
3) In patients in whom the anemia does recover, it may take up to 12 weeks after treatment is discontinued, to do so.
 
4) Erythropoietin use may facilitate recovery from anemia.
 
5) Further studies on anemia recovery after treatment with pegylated interferon and ribavirin are warranted.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2015, 11:06:28 pm by Lynn K »
Genotype 1a
1978 contracted, 1990 Dx
1995 Intron A failed
2001 Interferon Riba null response
2003 Pegintron Riba trial med null response
2008 F4 Cirrhosis Bx
2014 12 week Sov/Oly relapse
10/14 fibroscan 27 PLT 96
2014 24 weeks Harvoni 15 weeks Riba
5/4/15 EOT not detected, ALT 21, AST 20
4 week post not detected, ALT 26, AST 28
12 week post NOT DETECTED (07/27/15)
ALT 29, AST 27 PLT 92
24 week post NOT DETECTED! (10/19/15)
44 weeks (3/11/16)  fibroscan 33, PLT 111, HCV NOT DETECTED!
I AM FREE!

Offline KimInTheForest

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Re: My Riba-Anemia Will Not Go Away
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2015, 12:04:10 am »
Thanks Lynn & Philadelphia for your replies. :)

So I see from that link you posted Lynn that some patients required 12 weeks or 24 weeks or even longer to regain their pre-treatment levels. However, I would expect longer recovery where interferon is involved since it suppresses bone marrow production of red blood cells. With these new treatments, supposedly nothing is suppressing the bone marrow. Nevertheless, I guess my situation is not totally out of line. I'll have more labs in 3 weeks. That will be my 12 week post-tx labs at which I very much hope to achieve my SVR12. :) Will be interesting to see if my hemoglobin is starting to recover by then.

kim
Kim Goldberg (Nanaimo, BC)
1970s: Contracted HCV (genotype 3a)
2015: Cured with Harvoni + ribavirin (12 weeks)
MY STORY: https://pigsquash.wordpress.com/2016/01/28/undetectable-my-hep-c-story/

Offline Lynn K

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Re: My Riba-Anemia Will Not Go Away
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2015, 12:10:19 am »
yes those were my thoughts as well about the result being not entirely applicable but still enlightening just to show your situation is not entirely unusual

Hope you get those numbers back up sooner rather than later

Lynn
Genotype 1a
1978 contracted, 1990 Dx
1995 Intron A failed
2001 Interferon Riba null response
2003 Pegintron Riba trial med null response
2008 F4 Cirrhosis Bx
2014 12 week Sov/Oly relapse
10/14 fibroscan 27 PLT 96
2014 24 weeks Harvoni 15 weeks Riba
5/4/15 EOT not detected, ALT 21, AST 20
4 week post not detected, ALT 26, AST 28
12 week post NOT DETECTED (07/27/15)
ALT 29, AST 27 PLT 92
24 week post NOT DETECTED! (10/19/15)
44 weeks (3/11/16)  fibroscan 33, PLT 111, HCV NOT DETECTED!
I AM FREE!

 


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