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Author Topic: Hepatitis from Energy Drinks?  (Read 8981 times)

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Offline dragonslayer

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Hepatitis from Energy Drinks?
« on: November 02, 2016, 04:34:33 pm »
A strange case, to be sure, but given the large number or factual errors in the article, its hard to know how much is to be believed:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/02/health/energy-drinks-hepatitis/
Paul

DX 2008
Started Harvoni 11/26/14 for 8 wks
Completed 8 wks Harvoni 01/20/15
EOT RNA Quant result:  Detected 29
7.5 wk post tx: Detected < LLOQ(12)
11 wk post tx: UNDETECTED SVR12
24 wk post tx: UNDETECTED SVR24; AST 26; ALT 22; ALP 73
48 wk post tx: UNDETECTED SVR48; AST 18; ALT 18; ALP 70
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vl 2.4mil
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2013 bpx: Stage&Grade: 0-1
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likely infected early '70s

Offline Lynn K

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Re: Hepatitis from Energy Drinks?
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2016, 08:49:43 pm »
Well too much of certain vitamins can be dangerous you can overdose on vitamins.

Reading the article that he had hep C I would think that likely contributed but yup B12 can cause liver damage taken to excess

http://www.livestrong.com/article/359556-risks-of-too-much-vitamin-b12/

Risks of Too Much Vitamin B12

Excess vitamin B-12 can damage liver and kidney cells, leading to symptoms of liver and kidney failure, according to Drugs.com. B-12 is metabolized in the liver and its by-products are removed from the body by the kidneys. Exposure of the liver to high levels of B-12 may cause damage to liver cells, leading to inflammation and scar formation. Kidney tubules may also be damaged by excess of B12 as it is excreted from the body. Patients with liver and kidney problems should consult their doctor before taking over-the-counter vitamins containing B-12.
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1978 contracted, 1990 Dx
1995 Intron A failed
2001 Interferon Riba null response
2003 Pegintron Riba trial med null response
2008 F4 Cirrhosis Bx
2014 12 week Sov/Oly relapse
10/14 fibroscan 27 PLT 96
2014 24 weeks Harvoni 15 weeks Riba
5/4/15 EOT not detected, ALT 21, AST 20
4 week post not detected, ALT 26, AST 28
12 week post NOT DETECTED (07/27/15)
ALT 29, AST 27 PLT 92
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Offline dragonslayer

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Re: Hepatitis from Energy Drinks?
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2016, 09:39:59 pm »
But it was vitamin B3 (Niacin) which was the offending ingredient in the energy drinks, which apparently can also cause liver problems.

But it was this that cracked me up:

"Although some HCV-positive patients do not show symptoms, others present fatigue, jaundice and pain in the upper left quadrant of the abdomen, where the liver is."
Paul

DX 2008
Started Harvoni 11/26/14 for 8 wks
Completed 8 wks Harvoni 01/20/15
EOT RNA Quant result:  Detected 29
7.5 wk post tx: Detected < LLOQ(12)
11 wk post tx: UNDETECTED SVR12
24 wk post tx: UNDETECTED SVR24; AST 26; ALT 22; ALP 73
48 wk post tx: UNDETECTED SVR48; AST 18; ALT 18; ALP 70
GT 1a
vl 2.4mil
2008 bpx: Stage&Grade 0
2013 bpx: Stage&Grade: 0-1
IL28B: TT
likely infected early '70s

Offline Lynn K

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Re: Hepatitis from Energy Drinks?
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2016, 10:26:12 pm »
Oops my bad guess I read too fast. But yeah B vitamins are somewhat problematic and why more is seldom better when it comes to vitamins and really anything.

You mean my liver is not on my left side? Dang gotta revise my anatomy knowledge lol :)
Genotype 1a
1978 contracted, 1990 Dx
1995 Intron A failed
2001 Interferon Riba null response
2003 Pegintron Riba trial med null response
2008 F4 Cirrhosis Bx
2014 12 week Sov/Oly relapse
10/14 fibroscan 27 PLT 96
2014 24 weeks Harvoni 15 weeks Riba
5/4/15 EOT not detected, ALT 21, AST 20
4 week post not detected, ALT 26, AST 28
12 week post NOT DETECTED (07/27/15)
ALT 29, AST 27 PLT 92
24 week post NOT DETECTED! (10/19/15)
44 weeks (3/11/16)  fibroscan 33, PLT 111, HCV NOT DETECTED!
I AM FREE!

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Re: Hepatitis from Energy Drinks?
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2016, 06:12:02 pm »
Unless he was one of those rare people with a left-sided liver, that was probably something a fact checker should have caught.
Anyway, it was a fascinating case. The original is good reading: http://casereports.bmj.com/content/2016/bcr-2016-216612.full

It reminded me of Morgan Spurlock's hepatitis in Supersize me. The liver is hearty, but it can only take so much...
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Offline dragonslayer

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Re: Hepatitis from Energy Drinks?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 08:59:10 pm »
Hi Lucinda, thanks for that link to the original.. Looks interesting; Gonna read soon.
Paul

DX 2008
Started Harvoni 11/26/14 for 8 wks
Completed 8 wks Harvoni 01/20/15
EOT RNA Quant result:  Detected 29
7.5 wk post tx: Detected < LLOQ(12)
11 wk post tx: UNDETECTED SVR12
24 wk post tx: UNDETECTED SVR24; AST 26; ALT 22; ALP 73
48 wk post tx: UNDETECTED SVR48; AST 18; ALT 18; ALP 70
GT 1a
vl 2.4mil
2008 bpx: Stage&Grade 0
2013 bpx: Stage&Grade: 0-1
IL28B: TT
likely infected early '70s

 


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