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Author Topic: Organic herbal tea and Harvoni?  (Read 12573 times)

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Offline mobennie

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Organic herbal tea and Harvoni?
« on: March 06, 2015, 09:36:19 pm »
I know that we are supposed to be careful with herbs while on Harvoni.  I have been drinking green tea for energy levels, but it has a lot of different herbs in it as well.  Called Gilead (per my doctor's assistant) to see if they could provide an answer as to whether I should drink it or not while on treatment, and they could not provide an answer.   Anyone know about this?  I would really love to continue drinking my green tea to give me a bit of energy, but do not want to jeopardize my treatment.

Thanks in advance!

Offline Bituman

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Re: Organic herbal tea and Harvoni?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2015, 12:31:12 pm »
I can't give you a definitive answer.  However, I drink a couple cups Bigelow green tea in the evening, about 1-2 hours before taking Harvoni.  My VL has gone from 3.6 million to <15 while doing this.  YMMV. 

Somebody told me green tea reduces inflammation, so I regularly drink it to help recovery from hard workouts. 

Bob
Age = 59, male, infected likely 1975
DX 07/07 GT 1a
Biopsy 2007:  GR 1, stage 0, HAI = 2/18
Since 2007:  1.48 MM < VL < 11 MM, avg = 5.64 MM
IL28B=CT
1/26/15, AST=43, ALT=55, VL=3.59 MM
2/5 Start Harvoni 12 weeks; Treat naive
2/20 AST=29, ALT=24, VL=59
3/6 AST=29, ALT=25, VL<15
3/19 AST=24, ALT=22, VL=undet
4/3 AST=29, ALT=25, VL=undet
4/30 EOT, AST=22, ALT=20, VL=undet
5/29 EOT+4, AST=20, ALT=19, VL=undet SVR
7/24 EOT+12, AST=23, ALT=18, VL=undet SVR
10/16 EOT+24, AST=22, ALT=17, VL=undet SVR

Offline Lynn K

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Re: Organic herbal tea and Harvoni?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2015, 04:26:51 pm »
Just my personal opinion but I wouldn't worry about it
Genotype 1a
1978 contracted, 1990 Dx
1995 Intron A failed
2001 Interferon Riba null response
2003 Pegintron Riba trial med null response
2008 F4 Cirrhosis Bx
2014 12 week Sov/Oly relapse
10/14 fibroscan 27 PLT 96
2014 24 weeks Harvoni 15 weeks Riba
5/4/15 EOT not detected, ALT 21, AST 20
4 week post not detected, ALT 26, AST 28
12 week post NOT DETECTED (07/27/15)
ALT 29, AST 27 PLT 92
24 week post NOT DETECTED! (10/19/15)
44 weeks (3/11/16)  fibroscan 33, PLT 111, HCV NOT DETECTED!
I AM FREE!

Offline mobennie

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Re: Organic herbal tea and Harvoni?
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2015, 04:48:35 pm »
Thanks Bob and Lynn.  I think I will keep on because I sure need the energy.  I get so fatigued and can't afford that :)

Offline bridget

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Re: Organic herbal tea and Harvoni?
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2015, 03:11:00 pm »
In general, the reason why caution is advised with herbal teas or supplements is because sometimes the listed ingredients are not accurate. There might be something in the tea/supplement to give energy that is not listed & could be harmful. This is more likely with smaller tea providers.
I think you would be fine with a big name brand of tea, where there would be more consistency in the supply chain. I drink a lot of black tea, and a little coffee.
Why not drink coffee for energy? It has been shown to be good for your liver. Here is one article from the NIH: "Coffee intake is associated with lower rates of liver disease progression in chronic hepatitis C."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19676128
Gilead has said not to take St. John's Wort, but Harvoni is so new, there has not been time to test every herbal & every otc medicine for interactions yet.  I had an awful head cold while on Harvoni & called SupportPath to see if I could take any otc cold meds. They said they did not have any "known" interactions listed, but that there is no list of "known" safe otc cold meds yet, they just don't have that data yet.  I decided not to risk it. I was very lucky to get treated and didn't want to take a chance.
Good luck!

Offline mobennie

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Re: Organic herbal tea and Harvoni?
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2015, 03:46:11 pm »
I'm with you, Bridget, don't want to take risks.  I love coffee too, but tea seems to give a little "cleaner" jolt of energy.  These aren't specialty teas - the green tea I have now is from Yogi (grocery store) and the other is Traditional Medicinals.  I haven't done tea since asking about it because I don't want to jeopardize this treatment.  Ready for the prize :)  Thanks for all the responses!

Offline atomic dog

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Re: Organic herbal tea and Harvoni?
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2015, 10:36:43 am »
As an editor, I always say, "When in doubt, cut it out." If Gilead can't confirm the effect of the herbs you're taking, why risk your treatment? Many Hep C sufferers turned to herbs due to the lack of suitable pharmaceutical options. Now that we have Harvoni, a miracle drug, really, why not shake off the herbs at least for the duration of the treatment?
Infected 1969, dirty needle
Geno 1a
Stage 2 fib, some necrosis
TX naive
1/29/15 ALT61; AST43
2/16/15 Started Harvoni; VL 1.5 m;
2/19/15 ALT40; AST24
2/29/15 ALT29; AST25
3/9/15 ALT28; AST25; 
3/9/15 < 20 IU/mL (3 wks) HCV RNA remains 'detected'
3/24/15 ALT30; AST25;
3/24/15 <20 IU/mL (5 wks) HCV RNA
4/10/15 <20 IU/ml (7 weeks) HCV RNA
4/20/15 ALT36; AST27
4/20/15 UND
5/11/15 UND (EOT); ALT33; AST25
6/11/15 UND; ALT 34; AST 29
8/14/15 UND
11/15/15 SVR, 24-wk EOT

Offline mobennie

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Re: Organic herbal tea and Harvoni?
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2015, 10:47:36 am »
Agreed, Atomic Dog - Bow wow wow yippee oh, yippee ay :)

Offline atomic dog

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Re: Organic herbal tea and Harvoni?
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2015, 02:14:29 am »
Word.
Infected 1969, dirty needle
Geno 1a
Stage 2 fib, some necrosis
TX naive
1/29/15 ALT61; AST43
2/16/15 Started Harvoni; VL 1.5 m;
2/19/15 ALT40; AST24
2/29/15 ALT29; AST25
3/9/15 ALT28; AST25; 
3/9/15 < 20 IU/mL (3 wks) HCV RNA remains 'detected'
3/24/15 ALT30; AST25;
3/24/15 <20 IU/mL (5 wks) HCV RNA
4/10/15 <20 IU/ml (7 weeks) HCV RNA
4/20/15 ALT36; AST27
4/20/15 UND
5/11/15 UND (EOT); ALT33; AST25
6/11/15 UND; ALT 34; AST 29
8/14/15 UND
11/15/15 SVR, 24-wk EOT

 


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