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Offline coloradogirl

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Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« on: March 08, 2015, 01:34:32 pm »
Sugar can inflame the liver and lead to a faster fibrosis progression.  And don't forget that white bread converts to it, too. 

http://www.hepatitiscentral.com/news/the_not-so-swee/

This was part of a discussion in the alcohol thread, but deserves top billing.
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HCV 1a diag 2002
1st tx 2004 null responder
2nd tx 2010 clinical trial relapsed
Last biopsy 2010 F2-F3
Fibrosure inconclusive some parameters out of range
Abdominal Ultrasound 7/2015 - No sign of Cirrhosis
Pretreatment  vl 580,000
Started Harvoni 3/2/2015 EOT: 5/24/2015
4th week 3/27/2015 vl < 5.3 Undetected
8th week 4/23/2015 vl <5.3 Undetected
12 week EOT  5/28/2015 vl <5.3 Undetected
4wk after tx 6/26/2015 vl <5.3 Undetected
12wk after tx 8/19/2015 vl<15 Undetected!!!
I'm Cured! Yes!

Offline BubbaT

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Re: Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2015, 01:44:00 pm »
Thank you Coloradogal,    This is what I was suspecting was a big problem for me,
I was using truvia in my coffee and drinking sweet tea and come to find out it is from alcohol, Wow, I'm helping kill my liver and not even realizing it!

Thanks for the helpful links !
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Age 57 male
Infected late 70's
Diagnosed 95
1a, 2 prev biopsy 95, 2004
Ct 2007, 2015
Treatment Naive
F4 A3. Fibrosure/ CT 2-5-15. Ammonia 222
VL 2.2 mil.
Started Harvoni  3-3-15. 12weeks, finished 5-26-15
4 week VL undetected
12 week EOT undetected

Offline Ruthie

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Re: Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2015, 01:56:55 pm »
Wow, it's interesting how much our knowledge has changed in recent years. My first Hep C Dr, who had Hep C himself, told me to suck on hard candies because the sugar would help my liver. 
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Offline donk

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Re: Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2015, 05:58:58 am »
While people believe in juicing I saw a show that contradicts that juicing is good for you. When you turn fruits into their liquid form the sugars are processed too quickly in the liver and the excess sugars are turned into fat and not what the body needs from the natural sugars. It is better to eat the fruit/vegetable whole because the fibers slow the processing down in the liver preventing turning the sugars turning into fats. I know it is counter intuitive that fruit juice is bad for you. I used to juice but now I eat the whole fruits/vegetables instead.
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Offline atomic dog

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Re: Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2015, 10:40:39 am »
These are all great tips. Have to admit that since I started Harvoni my appetite has increased and my sweet tooth went into overdrive. Trying to manage that.
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Infected 1969, dirty needle
Geno 1a
Stage 2 fib, some necrosis
TX naive
1/29/15 ALT61; AST43
2/16/15 Started Harvoni; VL 1.5 m;
2/19/15 ALT40; AST24
2/29/15 ALT29; AST25
3/9/15 ALT28; AST25; 
3/9/15 < 20 IU/mL (3 wks) HCV RNA remains 'detected'
3/24/15 ALT30; AST25;
3/24/15 <20 IU/mL (5 wks) HCV RNA
4/10/15 <20 IU/ml (7 weeks) HCV RNA
4/20/15 ALT36; AST27
4/20/15 UND
5/11/15 UND (EOT); ALT33; AST25
6/11/15 UND; ALT 34; AST 29
8/14/15 UND
11/15/15 SVR, 24-wk EOT

Offline DisabledHepcat

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Re: Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2015, 02:59:18 am »
I ordered 35 lbs of Callicrate beef, 15 pounds of ground chicken, 10 lbs of ground turkey from Ranchfoods Direct in Colorado springs ,30 lbs of Now brand whey protein isolate and 2000 grams of L Glutamine powder just before treatment.
Woodland Park, Colorado here
« Last Edit: March 14, 2015, 03:04:36 am by DisabledHepcat »
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Offline atomic dog

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Re: Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2015, 03:15:17 am »
Time for a BBQ!
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Infected 1969, dirty needle
Geno 1a
Stage 2 fib, some necrosis
TX naive
1/29/15 ALT61; AST43
2/16/15 Started Harvoni; VL 1.5 m;
2/19/15 ALT40; AST24
2/29/15 ALT29; AST25
3/9/15 ALT28; AST25; 
3/9/15 < 20 IU/mL (3 wks) HCV RNA remains 'detected'
3/24/15 ALT30; AST25;
3/24/15 <20 IU/mL (5 wks) HCV RNA
4/10/15 <20 IU/ml (7 weeks) HCV RNA
4/20/15 ALT36; AST27
4/20/15 UND
5/11/15 UND (EOT); ALT33; AST25
6/11/15 UND; ALT 34; AST 29
8/14/15 UND
11/15/15 SVR, 24-wk EOT

Offline coloradogirl

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Re: Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2015, 08:18:55 am »
So I was out the other day, and desired to get a donut from this crazy donut place. I got two, because they just looked so good. The most sugarie things I have eaten, I think, ever! 
Later on, I'm certain, I felt my liver swell up! I felt a little nausious, and felt like I really should not have eaten them.  Then the next morning, my head felt strange, and there was a ringing in my ears like I was experiencing a hangover. 
I'm not going there again!
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HCV 1a diag 2002
1st tx 2004 null responder
2nd tx 2010 clinical trial relapsed
Last biopsy 2010 F2-F3
Fibrosure inconclusive some parameters out of range
Abdominal Ultrasound 7/2015 - No sign of Cirrhosis
Pretreatment  vl 580,000
Started Harvoni 3/2/2015 EOT: 5/24/2015
4th week 3/27/2015 vl < 5.3 Undetected
8th week 4/23/2015 vl <5.3 Undetected
12 week EOT  5/28/2015 vl <5.3 Undetected
4wk after tx 6/26/2015 vl <5.3 Undetected
12wk after tx 8/19/2015 vl<15 Undetected!!!
I'm Cured! Yes!

Offline Ruthie

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Re: Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2015, 03:25:48 pm »
Quote from: coloradogirl on March 14, 2015, 08:18:55 am
So I was out the other day, and desired to get a donut from this crazy donut place. I got two, because they just looked so good. The most sugarie things I have eaten, I think, ever! 
Later on, I'm certain, I felt my liver swell up! I felt a little nausious, and felt like I really should not have eaten them.  Then the next morning, my head felt strange, and there was a ringing in my ears like I was experiencing a hangover. 
I'm not going there again!

You poor thing!

That's so something I would do-warn others against it, do it myself, and make myself sick LMAO
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Offline coloradogirl

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Re: Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2015, 09:23:06 pm »
Ruthie,
Thanks for your underdtanding. LoL! You are a doll!
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HCV 1a diag 2002
1st tx 2004 null responder
2nd tx 2010 clinical trial relapsed
Last biopsy 2010 F2-F3
Fibrosure inconclusive some parameters out of range
Abdominal Ultrasound 7/2015 - No sign of Cirrhosis
Pretreatment  vl 580,000
Started Harvoni 3/2/2015 EOT: 5/24/2015
4th week 3/27/2015 vl < 5.3 Undetected
8th week 4/23/2015 vl <5.3 Undetected
12 week EOT  5/28/2015 vl <5.3 Undetected
4wk after tx 6/26/2015 vl <5.3 Undetected
12wk after tx 8/19/2015 vl<15 Undetected!!!
I'm Cured! Yes!

Offline Ruthie

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Re: Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2015, 09:52:12 pm »
I'm still laughing at you over that LOL

But hey, a bird pooped on my head today. The Universe got me back.
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Offline coloradogirl

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Re: Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2015, 10:08:13 pm »
Wow, how rare is that? You should buy a lotto ticket, Ruthie!
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HCV 1a diag 2002
1st tx 2004 null responder
2nd tx 2010 clinical trial relapsed
Last biopsy 2010 F2-F3
Fibrosure inconclusive some parameters out of range
Abdominal Ultrasound 7/2015 - No sign of Cirrhosis
Pretreatment  vl 580,000
Started Harvoni 3/2/2015 EOT: 5/24/2015
4th week 3/27/2015 vl < 5.3 Undetected
8th week 4/23/2015 vl <5.3 Undetected
12 week EOT  5/28/2015 vl <5.3 Undetected
4wk after tx 6/26/2015 vl <5.3 Undetected
12wk after tx 8/19/2015 vl<15 Undetected!!!
I'm Cured! Yes!

Offline Ruthie

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Re: Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2015, 10:10:48 pm »
Quote from: coloradogirl on March 14, 2015, 10:08:13 pm
Wow, how rare is that? You should buy a lotto ticket, Ruthie!

Right?!?! LOL
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Offline BubbaT

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Re: Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2015, 10:13:25 pm »
Ruthie, that is so KooL,

You told us the bird poop story!
Most people would never tell a funny story on themselves, I commend you!

My hats off to Ya!   No, I take that back!   Lol
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Age 57 male
Infected late 70's
Diagnosed 95
1a, 2 prev biopsy 95, 2004
Ct 2007, 2015
Treatment Naive
F4 A3. Fibrosure/ CT 2-5-15. Ammonia 222
VL 2.2 mil.
Started Harvoni  3-3-15. 12weeks, finished 5-26-15
4 week VL undetected
12 week EOT undetected

Offline Ruthie

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Re: Sugar Inflammation and Fibrosis Progression
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2015, 10:21:10 pm »
Quote from: BubbaT on March 14, 2015, 10:13:25 pm
Ruthie, that is so KooL,

You told us the bird poop story!
Most people would never tell a funny story on themselves, I commend you!

My hats off to Ya!   No, I take that back!   Lol

LMAO

I'm always doing stupid things or having weird things happen to me. I figure I may as well laugh at myself. I can't let everyone else have all the fun!
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