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Author Topic: Starting a List for All!  (Read 11692 times)

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Offline Coach Mike

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Starting a List for All!
« on: August 14, 2015, 08:20:23 pm »
My insurance company, ARBenefits (Health Advantage, Arkansas), considers patients with severe extra hepatic manifestions (EHM) as candidates for treatment coverage regardless of fibrosis score. I would like to compile a list of other insurers who have similar options in their treatment criteria. This would allow people seeking treatment coverage based on EHM to cite the various insurers by name who consider EHM a legitimate reason to approve HCV treatment.
Thanks,
Coach Mike
Genotype 1a, Biopsy:11/2014: F-1, Tx Naive
Fibrosure, 7/20/15: F-1-2
Pre tx v/l: 1,600,000, ALT: 75, AST: 48
Started generic sofosbuvir & ledipasvir: 10/23/15
4 wk labs: 11/19/15, ALT: 21, AST: 16, V/L:  UND
Started 8 week Harvoni tx: 11/20/15
8 wk labs, 12/15/15, ALT: 15, AST: 13, V/L: UND
4/11/16 12 week EOT-Undetected
7/5/16 SVR 24

Offline gnatcatcher

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Re: Starting a List for All!
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2015, 08:39:10 pm »
For those who (like me), had not heard the term "extra hepatic manifestations" before, I just found this clear fact sheet that lists the manifestations:
http://hcvadvocate.org/hepatitis/factsheets_pdf/Extrahepatic.pdf

Coach Mike, good thinking -- such a list could be helpful to many people who turn to this forum. I don't know about my insurance company's policy, but I'll try to find out.
9/29/71 transfusions
HCV genotype 1a
7/09/15-9/30/15 Harvoni

Before treatment:
Viral Load 9,490,582
FibroScan 19.5 kPa [F4]
ALT 262
AST 217
ALP 183

Most recent:
VL still UNDETECTED (SVR 102)
FibroScan 7.6 kPa [F1-2]
ALT 15
AST 20
ALP 85

Offline Coach Mike

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Re: Starting a List for All!
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2015, 09:07:33 pm »
Glad to help. There is so much more to consider when dealing with HCV than just a fibrosis score.
Mike
Genotype 1a, Biopsy:11/2014: F-1, Tx Naive
Fibrosure, 7/20/15: F-1-2
Pre tx v/l: 1,600,000, ALT: 75, AST: 48
Started generic sofosbuvir & ledipasvir: 10/23/15
4 wk labs: 11/19/15, ALT: 21, AST: 16, V/L:  UND
Started 8 week Harvoni tx: 11/20/15
8 wk labs, 12/15/15, ALT: 15, AST: 13, V/L: UND
4/11/16 12 week EOT-Undetected
7/5/16 SVR 24

Offline Lynn K

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Re: Starting a List for All!
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2015, 11:18:46 pm »
I think many insurance companies are keeping that kind of information close to the vest. May be difficult for us mere mortals to obtain
Genotype 1a
1978 contracted, 1990 Dx
1995 Intron A failed
2001 Interferon Riba null response
2003 Pegintron Riba trial med null response
2008 F4 Cirrhosis Bx
2014 12 week Sov/Oly relapse
10/14 fibroscan 27 PLT 96
2014 24 weeks Harvoni 15 weeks Riba
5/4/15 EOT not detected, ALT 21, AST 20
4 week post not detected, ALT 26, AST 28
12 week post NOT DETECTED (07/27/15)
ALT 29, AST 27 PLT 92
24 week post NOT DETECTED! (10/19/15)
44 weeks (3/11/16)  fibroscan 33, PLT 111, HCV NOT DETECTED!
I AM FREE!

Offline slats1056

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Re: Starting a List for All!
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2015, 11:50:25 pm »
Coach Mike , How were You able to get the info.?

BTW Lynn K. I've been able to get a little more sleep the last couple of nights so My pea brain in comprehending things a little better. I.E.getting an idea what all I need to put on My signature,looking at several to get an idea. Woman You are a beast!!!
A real hep Super Hero!!!

Mike when I go in for labs Monday I'll ask the insurance lady if she is in. I was so happy with the whole staff when it only took a week from applying to having the first Harvoni script in My hand I bought them all lunch. They really like Me big time & are always checking on Me & sending a card or two.
73 non ab 98 hep c refused pegint/riba
6-15 Gen.1b 1/2 MIL ALT72 AST37 No cirrhosis
7-15  Harvoni 12 weeks
10-14-15 EOT VIRAL LOAD NON-DET  
12-30-15 EOT+12 VIRAL LOAD NON DET  SVR12            8-9-18 HCV LOAD 1.02IU/ml AST22  ALT30 RELAPSE?
9-18-18 confirmed gt 1b relapse
10-16-18 approved 16 weeks Mavyret

Offline Lynn K

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Re: Starting a List for All!
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2015, 12:03:51 am »
Believe me when I say I know people who went much further than I down this dark road. Some did not come back and some just barely made it back. I have been very lucky compared with them.

I am where I am because I am standing on the shoulders of giants.

Best to all
LK
Genotype 1a
1978 contracted, 1990 Dx
1995 Intron A failed
2001 Interferon Riba null response
2003 Pegintron Riba trial med null response
2008 F4 Cirrhosis Bx
2014 12 week Sov/Oly relapse
10/14 fibroscan 27 PLT 96
2014 24 weeks Harvoni 15 weeks Riba
5/4/15 EOT not detected, ALT 21, AST 20
4 week post not detected, ALT 26, AST 28
12 week post NOT DETECTED (07/27/15)
ALT 29, AST 27 PLT 92
24 week post NOT DETECTED! (10/19/15)
44 weeks (3/11/16)  fibroscan 33, PLT 111, HCV NOT DETECTED!
I AM FREE!

Offline slats1056

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Re: Starting a List for All!
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2015, 12:10:20 am »
My hat is tipped to You. I am in awe of Your modesty after such a difficult journey that You endured!
73 non ab 98 hep c refused pegint/riba
6-15 Gen.1b 1/2 MIL ALT72 AST37 No cirrhosis
7-15  Harvoni 12 weeks
10-14-15 EOT VIRAL LOAD NON-DET  
12-30-15 EOT+12 VIRAL LOAD NON DET  SVR12            8-9-18 HCV LOAD 1.02IU/ml AST22  ALT30 RELAPSE?
9-18-18 confirmed gt 1b relapse
10-16-18 approved 16 weeks Mavyret

Offline Bree

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Re: Starting a List for All!
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2015, 01:01:15 am »
From my understanding, severe extra hepatic manifestions (EHM) is also listed on the guidelines from the AASLD that list those that should receive priority for treatment.  A large number of insurance companies have adapted those guidelines as criteria for treatment approval - which is mostly those with cirrhosis or severe EHM.   (Even though the AASLD has now added that all with Hep C  should be treated if their doctor recommends it, many insurance companies are sticking with the original guidelines - for obvious financial reasons).

In my appeal to my insurance company (HMSA) who uses those guidelines as a criteria for treatment, I attempted to list and qualify other hepatic symptoms even though many are difficult to prove and don't always meet the "severe" criteria.  They were unmoved, relying solely on the Fibrosis score of a 3/4 for consideration even though the others were listed.  That was my experience.  But others may have a different experience so it's worth the effort to get approval I think.

Luckily and gratefully, I was able to get the medication through Gilead Support Path.  My goal was try everything, leave no stone un-turned and get the treatment any way I possibly could.  Persistence is key.   
Dx 1997 Geno 1a
2002-2003 PEG Intron/riba (48 wks) respond/relapsed
Pre-Harvoni - Viral Load: 13.5 M - Log 7.1
Fibrosure Score F1-2  Pre-Treatment:  AST 73 / ALT 88

7/6/15 Started Harvoni (12 weeks)
10/5/15 HCV NOT DETECTED (One week post EOT)
11/9/15 NOT DETECTED!!! (6 wk post)
12/21/15 NOT DETECTED (12 wk post) 
3/14/16  NOT DETECTED (24 week post)AST 26 ALT 18
SVR ACHIEVED!!! 
CURED YES!!!

Offline Bree

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Re: Starting a List for All!
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2015, 01:08:16 am »
And, one more thing... I was able to get the insurance approval criteria for treatment and drugs available for treatment by my insurance company by simply requesting it.  I did that after the initial denial.  (Requesting it before the first denial would have been better.)  My local pharmacy got it for me too.  I'm sure the prescribing physician's office has access also.

I'm not sure but I don't think they can deny you the information on how they determine treatment approval.  In some cases, it may not yet be on their approved drug list.
Dx 1997 Geno 1a
2002-2003 PEG Intron/riba (48 wks) respond/relapsed
Pre-Harvoni - Viral Load: 13.5 M - Log 7.1
Fibrosure Score F1-2  Pre-Treatment:  AST 73 / ALT 88

7/6/15 Started Harvoni (12 weeks)
10/5/15 HCV NOT DETECTED (One week post EOT)
11/9/15 NOT DETECTED!!! (6 wk post)
12/21/15 NOT DETECTED (12 wk post) 
3/14/16  NOT DETECTED (24 week post)AST 26 ALT 18
SVR ACHIEVED!!! 
CURED YES!!!

Offline Coach Mike

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Re: Starting a List for All!
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2015, 09:57:34 am »
I asked for my insurer's criteria for treatment many times.  Their answer was always the same: "Have your doctor contact us".  After trying to explain to some faceless voice over and over that my doctor was busy and I was their customer and I paid the premium, they still refused to tell me.  So, since my insurance is managed by the state, I requested the criteria for treatment under the Freedom of Information Act and had it in the mail in a week.  There, under section 7A, HCV treat criteria was this:
7. "Patients with extra hepatic manifestations of chronic HCV infections are candidates for therapy regardless of corresponding Metavir score..........."
So congratulations to those who have been cured or are in the process!!  To the rest of us I say, "Research, pressure, post and persevere".
We need to fight for our right to treatment. There are too many of us for them to keep ignoring our plight.
Mike
Genotype 1a, Biopsy:11/2014: F-1, Tx Naive
Fibrosure, 7/20/15: F-1-2
Pre tx v/l: 1,600,000, ALT: 75, AST: 48
Started generic sofosbuvir & ledipasvir: 10/23/15
4 wk labs: 11/19/15, ALT: 21, AST: 16, V/L:  UND
Started 8 week Harvoni tx: 11/20/15
8 wk labs, 12/15/15, ALT: 15, AST: 13, V/L: UND
4/11/16 12 week EOT-Undetected
7/5/16 SVR 24

Offline gnatcatcher

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Re: Starting a List for All!
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2015, 03:33:34 pm »
My insurance company, ARBenefits (Health Advantage, Arkansas), considers patients with severe extra hepatic manifestions (EHM) as candidates for treatment coverage regardless of fibrosis score. I would like to compile a list of other insurers who have similar options in their treatment criteria. This would allow people seeking treatment coverage based on EHM to cite the various insurers by name who consider EHM a legitimate reason to approve HCV treatment.
Thanks,
Coach Mike
Coach, as promised, I have now obtained my insurer's prior authorization of benefits guidelines for approving Harvoni. Anthem doesn't consider patients with severe extra hepatic manifestations as candidates for Harvoni coverage, except for the following: (a) Type 2 or 3 essential cryoglobulinemia with end-organ manifestations (for example, vasculitis) or (b) Glomerular disease [proteinuria (greater than 300 mg/day), nephrotic syndrome, or membranoproliferative glomerulonephritis]. (a) is listed on the HSCP Fact Sheet of EHMs. (b) is not, but kidneys aren't the liver, so I'm counting glomerular disease as extra-hepatic.
9/29/71 transfusions
HCV genotype 1a
7/09/15-9/30/15 Harvoni

Before treatment:
Viral Load 9,490,582
FibroScan 19.5 kPa [F4]
ALT 262
AST 217
ALP 183

Most recent:
VL still UNDETECTED (SVR 102)
FibroScan 7.6 kPa [F1-2]
ALT 15
AST 20
ALP 85

Offline Coach Mike

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Re: Starting a List for All!
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2015, 03:44:34 pm »
Thanks Gnatcatcher,
That helps. Anthem is big time.
I am happy to see you are getting the treatment you need!
Mike
Genotype 1a, Biopsy:11/2014: F-1, Tx Naive
Fibrosure, 7/20/15: F-1-2
Pre tx v/l: 1,600,000, ALT: 75, AST: 48
Started generic sofosbuvir & ledipasvir: 10/23/15
4 wk labs: 11/19/15, ALT: 21, AST: 16, V/L:  UND
Started 8 week Harvoni tx: 11/20/15
8 wk labs, 12/15/15, ALT: 15, AST: 13, V/L: UND
4/11/16 12 week EOT-Undetected
7/5/16 SVR 24

 


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