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Offline Squiggles

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I have two questions
« on: October 08, 2015, 03:57:25 pm »
I have read where several people are experiencing less joint pain.  Does anyone know if this will be permanent? Have they had time to do studies of this effect? 
and....Will we be able to donate blood when we are pronounced cured?    Of course we would have to meet the other criteria for donating.

Offline KimInTheForest

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Re: I have two questions
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2015, 04:21:59 pm »
I have read where several people are experiencing less joint pain.  Does anyone know if this will be permanent? Have they had time to do studies of this effect? 
and....Will we be able to donate blood when we are pronounced cured?    Of course we would have to meet the other criteria for donating.

Hi Squiggles. I don't know about the joint pain. But on blood donation, my understanding is that we won't ever be able to donate blood because we will always test positive for HCV antibodies for the rest of our lives. And although a viral load test/PCR would establish that we have no virus in our bodies, those tests are very expensive and will not be run on donated blood for cost reasons. A letter from our doctors saying we are virus-free would prove nothing, since we could at any later point contract HCV just like anybody else could.

So unless a super-cheap viral load/PCR test is developed, I don't believe we will ever be eligible to donate blood.

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1970s: Contracted HCV (genotype 3a)
2015: Cured with Harvoni + ribavirin (12 weeks)
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Offline Lynn K

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Re: I have two questions
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2015, 07:14:21 pm »
We will forever test positive for hep c antibodies because we were once infected. Antibodies are not the virus they are made by our own bodies in response to the hep c virus in an attempt to fight off the virus.

The blood banks only test for antibodies and so if we did donate our donation would be disposed of and not used. For them to be able to use our donation they would have to store the donation in a secure area to prevent its usage and have the significantly more expensive test for the virus itself  HCV RNA by PCR which takes several days to get back.

So basically it is an issue of practicality plus wishing to avoid even the smallest of unnecessary risk to health.
Genotype 1a
1978 contracted, 1990 Dx
1995 Intron A failed
2001 Interferon Riba null response
2003 Pegintron Riba trial med null response
2008 F4 Cirrhosis Bx
2014 12 week Sov/Oly relapse
10/14 fibroscan 27 PLT 96
2014 24 weeks Harvoni 15 weeks Riba
5/4/15 EOT not detected, ALT 21, AST 20
4 week post not detected, ALT 26, AST 28
12 week post NOT DETECTED (07/27/15)
ALT 29, AST 27 PLT 92
24 week post NOT DETECTED! (10/19/15)
44 weeks (3/11/16)  fibroscan 33, PLT 111, HCV NOT DETECTED!
I AM FREE!

Offline Squiggles

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Re: I have two questions
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2015, 08:41:49 pm »
oh that's too bad- I always wanted to give blood- my dad gave gallons of his rare type during his life.  Before HCV, I did not weigh enough.  Time has taken care of that part.  Thanks for the good info.

Offline Lynn K

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Re: I have two questions
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2015, 09:07:52 pm »
I recently have heard we can donate organs especially for others who are positive for hep c antibodies they might also need a transplant for something else like a cornea or kidney and for me my liver is shot but if yours is still in decent shape someone with hep c and cirrhosis you could save their life. Becoming an organ donor is the gift of life.
Genotype 1a
1978 contracted, 1990 Dx
1995 Intron A failed
2001 Interferon Riba null response
2003 Pegintron Riba trial med null response
2008 F4 Cirrhosis Bx
2014 12 week Sov/Oly relapse
10/14 fibroscan 27 PLT 96
2014 24 weeks Harvoni 15 weeks Riba
5/4/15 EOT not detected, ALT 21, AST 20
4 week post not detected, ALT 26, AST 28
12 week post NOT DETECTED (07/27/15)
ALT 29, AST 27 PLT 92
24 week post NOT DETECTED! (10/19/15)
44 weeks (3/11/16)  fibroscan 33, PLT 111, HCV NOT DETECTED!
I AM FREE!

Offline Onefluover

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Re: I have two questions
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2015, 09:30:13 pm »
I agree with Kim and Lynn but would add that it is more due to the stigma. We all know well that used medical syringes, when sterilized in a properly operated, correctly functioning autoclave can technically be reused, was once the norm. But we no longer do that more due to stigma than fear of faulty equipment/operator.

If an economical and fast PCR test were developed, and one will, we will still be forever barred. Asside from stigma, there may be some issue with entering those antibodies into an otherwise pristine blood pool. They won't morph into Hep C but they may trigger unknown things to happen or develope in a recipients body/blood.

However..., and I'm not a biologist, but logic tells me that the day may come that those antibodies may become useful in the developement of a vaccine as was done with Hep B. even if the Hep C antibodies failed to tackle the virus they may still have value.
51 M HAV/HBV Im., HCV-G3a
Fibrospect 2 <16 (F0/1) VL 4M
Expsd 1984-1992 (?) dx 1992
First tx attempt 2015
Liver 18.6 cm, relatively course & echogenic w/ diffuse hepatocellular process. 
Abnormal labs: ALT 163, AST 73, Chol 118, HDL Chol 30, IGA .05, Ferritin 648, Iron Bind Cap 296, Iron Sat 60%
Signs & symptoms: Freq. severe headache, very high BP, abdominal pain, distentia, joint pain, dbl vis., white nails, Schamberg's Dis., nausea, mild Jaundice, dark urine, non-hereditary Hemochromatosis.

 


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