Author Topic: Post-Treatment Test Results: "Undetected" vs. "Negative" (Read 16815 times)

Hep Editors · « **on:** October 12, 2015, 01:23:48 pm »

A quick snippet from Lucinda Porter's "Big Questions About Hepatitis C"

"Undetected (or nondetected) means that hepatitis C is gone, and presumably all gone.... If you are concerned that you may have some residual HCV swimming around in your body, that will someday become a full-blown infection, rest assured, as this is quite unlikely."

For more info: http://www.hepmag.com/articles/hepatitis_c_questions_2502_27873.shtml

rt2cup · « **Reply #1 on:** October 29, 2015, 03:48:39 pm »

I found the article interesting particularly the information on viral load and detection level. When I did peg-intron alfa-2b and ribivan my VL reached the bottom of the assay <10 IU/ml. Supposedly I had cleared based on the article. But at the 6 month mark the virus came roaring back. The doctor did not say I had cleared, they informed me to wait for the 6 month results. It appears the virus was still in my system but the test could only measure to 10 IU/ml. The article seems to stated something different about these tests.

What am I missing?

GuineaPigs4Vaccine · « **Reply #2 on:** October 31, 2015, 06:24:03 pm »

What the cdc is doing with the results from the people that turned hepatitis c negative or undetectable is that the researchers/cdc are working on a vaccine from the study of hepatitis c cured people for the people that are not currently affected by the virus yet, like how the polio vaccine was developed.

Hepatitis C viruses is a mutation from a typical hepatitis b jaundice ailment that then later it combined with a viral influenza over time.

Have you know there is no cure for the common cold and this assumption scenario could be likewise for all viral hepatitis's.

I hope not, Knock on wood.

Lynn K · « **Reply #3 on:** October 31, 2015, 08:33:39 pm »

Well gee no one has contacted me for a study I would be glad to help eradicate this virus if asked.

Where did you get this information that hep C is a mutation of hep B? This is first time I have seen anything like that anywhere. Can you please provide a link to you source of this information? I would like to read more scientific information about this.

How long have you had hep c and what genotype are you have you been treated yet? Are you treatment naive? Do you have any liver damage?

I do not understand you last sentence but there is a cure for hep c now thanks to science and hard working scientists.

Science Rules!

GuineaPigs4Vaccine · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2015, 10:10:27 pm »

Building upon another group's earlier discovery that ancient HBV genomes had become trapped in the genomes of zebra finches or Avian family.

Hepatitis B virus (HBV) is one of the most common human viral infections in the world. This virus specifically infects the liver cells of many primates (including humans), causing severe flu-like symptoms. though most people fully recover, roughly 5 percent remain infected throughout their lives; acting as carriers who can infect others whilst also suffering a variety of serious liver diseases, including cancer. http://www.theguardian.com/science/grrlscientist/2013/jul/03/genomic-virus-fossils-evolution-hepatitis-b-viruses

Lynn K · « **Reply #5 on:** October 31, 2015, 10:28:32 pm »

So how does this relate to your comment that hep c is a mutation of hep b? All I see is that the hepatitis B virus has existed for a very long time this is not really big news.

Did you know there are several more types of hepatitis virus each less common as you go down the alphabet? There are five main types of hepatitis that are caused by a virus, A, B, C, D, and E - plus types X and G.

How long have you had hep c? Are you seeing a doctor currently and are you treating?

GuineaPigs4Vaccine · « **Reply #6 on:** October 31, 2015, 11:33:23 pm »

all these hep c's that you described are mutations this is why none naive hep c or had prior treatments do have to be rigorously treated for 24 weeks rather than the 8 to 12 weeks that's recommended by GI physicians.

Lynn K · « **Reply #7 on:** October 31, 2015, 11:45:54 pm »

Why do you call them hep c's? Not following you post exactly. The folks who need longer treatment like myself were multiple time treatment failures with liver cirrhosis. People who have less liver damage and lower viral load can be treated for 12 even if they treated previously with the old standard of care interferon shots and ribivirin pills. Those who are treatment naive without cirrhosis can be considered to treat for 8 weeks. The recommendations come from the prescribing information sheet from Gilead pharmaceuticals. I don't see a GI doctor I see a hepatologist associated with a liver transplant center because of the severity of my liver damage.

My virus has been for the last 27 years hep c genotype 1a. That has never changed. I don't have hep b or antibodies to the hep b virus I only had hep c before and now because I treated I do not.

They are all different species of hepatitis virus in that they are all virus that attack the liver and are named A,B,C,D,E,X, any G respectively.

Do you have any link that says they are a mutatited form of hep c? And I thought originally you said hep c was a mutated form of hep B. Which is it, and can you please provide any link that relates to your assertion?

Also asking again do you have hep c? How long? What genotype? 1a, 1b, 2a,2b etc....Are you being treated? What treatment are you taking? And genotype are also not mutations they are different quasi species of the hepatitis c virus.

GuineaPigs4Vaccine · « **Reply #8 on:** November 01, 2015, 12:58:49 am »

do you have scientific literature that sporadically say its not?

why do people call many horses horses.

Lynn K · « **Reply #9 on:** November 01, 2015, 01:07:57 am »

Quarter horses are not Clydesdales and chimpanzees are not gorillas

How many references would you like? Here is one

http://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/Resources/Professionals/PDFs/ABCTable.pdf

Still asking, do you have hepatitis C? how long have you had hepatitis C? Are you currently treating for hepatitis C? if so what treatment?

GuineaPigs4Vaccine · « **Reply #10 on:** November 01, 2015, 01:13:16 am »

nice to see a hepatitis cart written by people that do not have the illness.

Lynn K · « **Reply #11 on:** November 01, 2015, 01:14:08 am »

Also

http://www.cdc.gov/hepatitis/hav/afaq.htm

What is the difference between Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, and Hepatitis C?
Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, and Hepatitis C are diseases caused by three different viruses. Although each can cause similar symptoms, they have different modes of transmission and can affect the liver differently. Hepatitis A appears only as an acute or newly occurring infection and does not become chronic. People with Hepatitis A usually improve without treatment. Hepatitis B and Hepatitis C can also begin as acute infections, but in some people, the virus remains in the body, resulting in chronic disease and long term liver problems. There are vaccines to prevent Hepatitis A and B; however, there is not one for Hepatitis C. If a person has had one type of viral hepatitis in the past, it is still possible to get the other types.

Lynn K · « **Reply #12 on:** November 01, 2015, 01:14:41 am »

Don't know what the differences if the chart was written by people who have hepatitis C or don't have hepatitis C and how do you know they don't have hepatitis C and asking again do YOU have hepatitis C

GuineaPigs4Vaccine · « **Reply #13 on:** November 01, 2015, 01:21:19 am »

Might I ask: Are you a physician? to be qualified to be asking these personal health questions?

slats1056 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 01, 2015, 01:53:32 am »

Lynn , Do You have a beer? I think I need one. LOL. My stress level just jumped off the chart I am laughing so hard. Did You know that laughing can cause stress?

slats1056 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 01, 2015, 01:54:37 am »

Sorry, that was uncalled for. I apologize!

GuineaPigs4Vaccine · « **Reply #16 on:** November 01, 2015, 01:13:38 am »

Quote from: slats1056 on November 01, 2015, 01:53:32 am

Lynn , Do You have a beer? I think I need one. LOL.

long term effects of drinking beer actual slows down the hepatitis c effects till you silently get stage 4 fibrosis years down the road.

Lynn K · « **Reply #17 on:** November 01, 2015, 01:46:47 am »

Hi GP

Nope not a doctor just wondering what brings you here as our one thing we all have in common is either our personal fight with hep c or a loved one with the virus. We come here to share our knowledge and experiences with symptoms and side effects and just sharing the common bond as we can understand each other. So if you don't have hep c or know someone who has why are you here?

Lynn K · « **Reply #18 on:** November 01, 2015, 01:48:44 am »

Ok beer is bad ok it absolutely does not slow down the virus again have any scientific evidence for this !

Lynn K · « **Reply #19 on:** November 01, 2015, 01:52:44 am »

No worries Slats

GuineaPigs4Vaccine · « **Reply #20 on:** November 01, 2015, 02:19:09 am »

Scoutdoy · « **Reply #21 on:** November 01, 2015, 02:25:11 am »

Lynn, don't waste your time or effort on this ridiculous thread

Scout

Lynn K · « **Reply #22 on:** November 01, 2015, 02:27:48 am »

Beer and any form of alcohol contribute to liver disease when you have hep c and drink hep c and alcohol work together causing more liver damage than either can alone.

Your comment above is neither helpful or respectful to this forum

GuineaPigs4Vaccine · « **Reply #23 on:** November 01, 2015, 02:44:24 am »

lighten up

Lynn K · « **Reply #24 on:** November 01, 2015, 02:51:10 am »

Hep c is not a joke GP

GuineaPigs4Vaccine · « **Reply #25 on:** November 01, 2015, 02:58:45 am »

Your negativity does healing hepatitis c no justice either.

Humor boosts the immune system.
Whenever I prick myself accidentally, I tell a joke, and my finger doesn’t bleed! Well, not exactly. But if you are laid up in bed with a terrible strain of the flu that your four-year-old brought home from her play date yesterday, try to find an itsy-bitsy thread of humor in your situation, and you’ll be back to work in no time. Or, better yet, dwell in the misery and stay away from the cubicle longer.

In 2006 researchers led by Lee Berk and Stanley A. Tan at Loma Linda University in Loma Linda, Califormia, found that two hormones—beta-endorphins (which alleviate depression) and human growth hormone (HGH, which helps with immunity) increased by 27 and 87 percent respectively when volunteers anticipated watching a humorous video. Simply anticipating laughter boosted health-protecting hormones and chemicals.

In his “American Fitness” article, Dave Traynor explains a separate study at Arkansas Tech University, in which concentrations of immunoglobulin A were increased after 21 fifth graders participated in a humor program. (I’m nervous to hear about the details of that fifth-grade humor program, because my kids roar whenever you throw out a bathroom term.) Laughter was once again found to increase the ability to fight viruses and foreign cells.

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/02/17/9-ways-that-humor-heals/

Lynn K · « **Reply #26 on:** November 01, 2015, 03:12:15 am »

I just don't find you particularly amusing good luck on treatment I hope you have an easy treatment and are cured of hep c

GuineaPigs4Vaccine · « **Reply #27 on:** November 01, 2015, 03:29:51 am »

I just found you prude and welcoming and my advice to you is that you should go out and enjoy your new given life free from hep c then instead of being some-kind of MASH 4077 frank burns here..

slats1056 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 01, 2015, 11:08:25 am »

Guinea, Welcome to the forums. I hope You find Your treatment option and all goes well with it. When You get time, fill us in on Your stats ,history, and any current labs. It helps out to see the info. and lets everyone know Your status with the ongoing virus issues. Again, welcome!

GuineaPigs4Vaccine · « **Reply #29 on:** November 01, 2015, 11:46:15 am »

I am a month and 1/2 into the harvoni treatment sinc 15th or november I get sore hands and feel achy and foggy dull feelings.. I'm taking mixed berries smoothy to counteract these symptom.. + im dealing with high blood pressure im taking 1 bp med instead of 3 ringing in the ears is slowly going away.

I am not going by medical stats right now i prefer not to

lporterrn · « **Reply #30 on:** November 01, 2015, 12:18:00 pm »

I appreciate spirited, respectful disagreement, but at least one of these comments bordered on name-calling. I am locking this thread.

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