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Offline someone

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Hep c test
« on: April 26, 2016, 07:14:41 pm »
Does anyone understand what it means when a test says: under standard range it says undetected, then under value it says 2

Offline Mugwump

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Re: Hep c test
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2016, 04:40:12 am »
The test cannot detect virus that is present in numbers less than a specified count per sample.  Which is termed as "LLOQ" (lower limit of quantification) per sample.


Because the test cannot detect numbers lower than a certain amount you are considered undetected. Some tests are 15 LLOQ some are 12 but either way what is known is that if you have low a level of virus below the LLOQ then chances are you do not have the virus in your blood stream. Unless you have a strain of the virus that has resistance chances are when you are free from the virus in the blood for more than 6 months then there are no virus left to replicate.


Today we wait for 12 weeks post treatment before we are certain that we are cured. Usually if there is a viral load it will spike up to levels which will be detected after a very short period of time. It is highly unusual to have a relapse if you test undetected consecutively over a 3 month period. So this is the new standard.


The older standard was 6 months without a a detectable viral load. The reason for this is that the new direct acting antivirals attack the virus in the liver cells and not just the blood stream with the aid of only the immune system to fight the infection in the liver so they are much more effective over a shorter period of time than interferon based therapies.


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Offline dragonslayer

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Re: Hep c test
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2016, 09:00:36 am »
Im a little confused by the result posted above....  I assume 'Standard Range'  in the post is whats considered 'normal' for that test which would be 'Undetected'.   What confuses me is the value of 2.  I dont know of any tests that have a LLOQ currently below 12, so how does the test measure a value as low as 2?
Paul

DX 2008
Started Harvoni 11/26/14 for 8 wks
Completed 8 wks Harvoni 01/20/15
EOT RNA Quant result:  Detected 29
7.5 wk post tx: Detected < LLOQ(12)
11 wk post tx: UNDETECTED SVR12
24 wk post tx: UNDETECTED SVR24; AST 26; ALT 22; ALP 73
48 wk post tx: UNDETECTED SVR48; AST 18; ALT 18; ALP 70
GT 1a
vl 2.4mil
2008 bpx: Stage&Grade 0
2013 bpx: Stage&Grade: 0-1
IL28B: TT
likely infected early '70s

Offline someone

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Re: Hep c test
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2016, 04:29:41 pm »
Thanks Eric!   :)

Dragonslayer, I still don't quite get the value of 2 either. Some of that testing is a bit confusing. And it almost seems as if it shouldn't be.


Offline Lynn K

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Re: Hep c test
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2016, 07:10:51 pm »
Is there anyway you could either copy and paste the result or type exactly what the slip says?

Here is a copy paste of a test result of mine before I treated for reference

Component Results          Value           Std Range
HCV RNA RT-PCR, QT       2422260      See Notes
HCV LOG 10                       6.384          See Notes
HCV QNT TEST INFO       See Below    See Notes

The quantitative range of the assay is 15 IU/mL to 100 million IU/mL
using COBAS(R) TaqMan(R) HCV test, v 2.0. The limit of detection (LOD)
and lower limit of quantification (LLOQ) for this assay is 15 IU/mL.
Results less than the quantitative range of the assay will be reported
as "HCV RNA detected, less than 15 IU/mL".
Result status: Final result

« Last Edit: May 12, 2016, 07:12:56 pm by Lynn K »
Genotype 1a
1978 contracted, 1990 Dx
1995 Intron A failed
2001 Interferon Riba null response
2003 Pegintron Riba trial med null response
2008 F4 Cirrhosis Bx
2014 12 week Sov/Oly relapse
10/14 fibroscan 27 PLT 96
2014 24 weeks Harvoni 15 weeks Riba
5/4/15 EOT not detected, ALT 21, AST 20
4 week post not detected, ALT 26, AST 28
12 week post NOT DETECTED (07/27/15)
ALT 29, AST 27 PLT 92
24 week post NOT DETECTED! (10/19/15)
44 weeks (3/11/16)  fibroscan 33, PLT 111, HCV NOT DETECTED!
I AM FREE!

 


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